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Can secularism learn to love pluralism?

Dr Jonathan Chaplin
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Luckily I managed to intercept the 144-page document as early as page 15. I was printing an article from the Guardian’s website and hadn’t bothered to scroll down first to check how long the responses ran. The article was by Jackie Ashley, whose columns I frequently find well-judged and illuminating. This one - ‘Cardinals, back off from this war with women and state’ (June 4 2007) - had evidently hit a nerve. In it she lambasted the Catholic Cardinals who had been so reckless as to take the opportunity of the 40th anniversary of the Abortion Act to remind Catholic MPs of their moral responsibilities. Sadly the piece recycled a number of lamentable but all-too-familiar misconceptions regarding the proper influence of religious convictions on public policy.
 
The Cardinals had suggested that Catholic MPs who voted pro-choice ought to refrain from receiving communion. Cardinal Murphy-O’Connor had urged Catholic MPs to inform themselves about the church’s prohibition of abortion so that they could vote ‘with consistency and integrity’. Rather more pyrotechnically, Cardinal O’Brien had claimed that the current rate of abortion in Britain amounted to ‘two Dunblane massacres a day’. It was no surprise that Ashley recoiled at the ‘ferocity’ of such rhetoric.
 
But it is one thing to take exception to particular instances of supposedly offensive political language. It is quite another to claim, as Ashley did, that the Cardinals’ language and thinking were ‘wholly against our constitution and tradition’. This reminds me of Azar Nafisi’s wonderful novel Reading Lolita in Tehran which records a young boy nervously confessing to having had ‘an illegal dream’. I wasn’t aware that the British political tradition knew the concept of an ‘unconstitutional thought’ – but leave that aside. But in attacking the Cardinals’ pastoral injunction to Catholic MPs as ‘unconstitutional’, what could she possibly mean? 
 
First, she seemed to be asserting that it was improper for MPs to follow their consciences rather than the majority wishes of their constituents. ‘What is dangerous is the demand that Catholic MPs must vote for their religion first and their constituents’ views second’. But for MPs to ‘vote for their religion’ is no more and no less than for any MP to vote according to their conscientious convictions. One of the online respondents was quick to point out that to require MPs always to rank constituents’ views above their own consciences would mean that capital punishment would be back on the statute book in short order. What is against the British political tradition is to regard MPs as mere delegates bound by the mandates of their constituents rather than representatives trusted to exercise their own independent judgement.
 
Second, and obscuring her first point, Ashley went on to say that MPs are not elected ‘as Catholics’ but as representatives of a political party - without noticing that the stance of an MP’s party on a particular issue may not at all be representative of the majority views of their constituents. Need I mention Iraq?
 
Third, she claimed that by urging MPs to vote pro-life when clear majorities of the British public are pro-choice amounts to the Catholic church ‘seeking to impose its beliefs on the rest of us’. It’s hard to grasp how this lamest of all secularist arguments manages to limp on today, but it’s clearly necessary to go on repeating the elementary rejoinder to it: all laws ‘impose’ particular views on citizens, and at least some of them do so against the views of a majority. And all citizens and organisations are entitled to ‘propose’ whatever laws they believe promote the public good. It’s up to parliament to decide which of these democratic propositions should become legislative impositions, and last time I checked the Catholic church did not control the workings of the Palace of Westminster.
 
I find it hard to believe that, on reflection, Ashley wouldn’t acknowledge all of this - which suggests that her real objection lies elsewhere. It turns out her problem is not with the exercise of conscience, only religiously-informed conscience; not with democratically-decided legislation, only those instances of it that reflect religious views. And in particular her problem is with MPs who in deciding how to vote recognise a moral authority transcending the will of the majority:
 
‘If any MP really thinks their personal religious views take precedence over everything else then they should leave the House of Commons. Their place is in church, mosque, synagogue or temple. Parliament is the place for compromises, for negotiations in a secular sphere under the general overhead light of the liberal tradition. So liberalism is privileged, is it? Yes. For without it, none of these religions ... would have such an easy time. Cardinals, come to terms with the society we live in ...’
 
But here she misstates again: under the regime she advocates, it is not liberalism but secularism that is privileged. For while the principle of freedom of conscience she rightly defends has been championed by liberalism, it is actually undermined by secularism. The kind of secularism she favours closes down freedom and pluralism. The inconsistency in her own position makes this clear: she is offended by Cardinals who exhort Catholic MPs to faithfully represent a significant minority position among British citizens and not be paralysed into silence by the power of majority sentiment, yet she is quite prepared to urge consistently Catholic MPs to quit parliament altogether. Now which position is more consistent with British constitutional tradition?


Dr. Jonathan Chaplin is the first Director of the Kirby Laing Institute for Christian Ethics.
 

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Nicholas 28 Jun

The constitutional position was most famously expounded by Edmund Burke:


Parliament is not a congress of ambassadors from different and hostile interests; which interests each must maintain, as an agent and advocate, against other agents and advocates; but parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole. You choose a member indeed; but when you have chosen him, he is not a member of Bristol, but he is a member of parliament.

As Burke well said, "resulting from the general reason of the whole." But, as we learnt from the previous debate, "orthodox" (Roman) Catholics do not base their view of abortion on reason: they listen only to dogma which has a cardinal's imprimatur. They must not follow their own consciences.

This dogma is based, not on reason, but on an ancient myth which is interpreted to imply that a human blastoma is made "in the image" of a supposed deity.

Secularism loves pluralism, but obscurantist dogma based solely on ancient myth has no place in a national parliament.


Paul Rodden 29 Jun

Depends on whether one classes Nicholas' post as a gauge. And if one does, then 'no' seems to answer it... :)



I'm sure secularists themselves are divided on the issue. Some would not have any time for religion, but not want to supress it. Others would believe everything can co-exist 'in perfect harmony'. Others would want to stamp it (and its adherents) out completely. While yet others would probably want to allow only 'moderate' believers, of whatever flavour.


I think they'd be even more ambiguity over astrologists, wiccans, pagans, satanists, witches, mediums, geomancers, etc..


If we introduce anthropology, sociology, and psychology, etc., into the pot, I think it would be difficult to say where religion leaves off, and secularism begins. There's plenty of science that amounts to little more than dogma and/or hypothesis and speculation, otherwise there couldn't be a 'Philosophy of Science'. I think secularists claim more objectivity in truth than is warranted, given the evidence.


Indeed, I think the term 'political science' is an oxymoron, if I ever heard one.



Once the religion was removed, what would be the next thing the secularists would blame and attack for spoiling everything?



Lastly, Nicholas, there are plenty of philosophical arguments the Catholic Church puts forward to complement its positions on most things, including abortion. I was reacting to Dr Holmes' rather patronising and facetious caricature of Catholicism by trying to show we put God and conscience before philosophical speculation.


If not, what did "...although conscience must and is always to be obeyed, but by that we don't mean subjective pontificating or a 'super-ego' or guilt-complex" mean in my post, then?



In fact, in my last post, one of the web references I pointed to begins with the quotation:


"The true sense of the teaching authority of the pope consists in his being the advocate of the Christian memory. The pope does not impose from without. Rather, he elucidates the Christian memory and defends it. For this reason the toast (of Newman) to conscience indeed must precede the toast to the pope, because without conscience there would not be a papacy. All power that the papacy has is the power of conscience."


And who wrote that? Cardinal Ratzinger, before he became Pope.

Scarthin Nick 30 Jun

Once again we to have the implication from both Anglican and Catholic camps that there is a large and threatening body of secularists poised to tear down everything that 2000 years of Xtianity has built up. Any chance of a forwarding address? They seem my kind of people!



Seriously, who are this powerful body of secularists we are constantly warned about? If they are such a danger to the moral fabric of society, then it should not be difficult to name the leading personnel and provide a brief outline of their most dangerous policies - and when we might expect to see such policies tabled for legislation.

Nicholas 30 Jun

Thanks, Paul (if I may). I'm glad we've got it cleared up that (Roman) Catholics are allowed to follow their own consciences, not merely, Dalek-like, obey the Chief Dalek.

Since secularism, by definition, is the view that arguments based solely on religious dogma should be excluded from politics, it is hardly surprising that secularists were appalled at the cardinals' attempt to blackmail Roman Catholic MPs and MSPs.

Jonathan Chaplin totally misreads Jackie Ashley's article. For secularists, MPs are always welcome to use their individual consciences to help them decide what best serves the collective interest. Jackie Ashley specifically objected to the "the demand that Catholic MPs must vote for their religion first" - ie, obey the chief Dalek, irrespective of their personal conscience.

Secularism, as I said above, entails pluralism. The state should neither be influenced by religious dogma, nor impose a particular religion, nor ban any religious practice, unless it causes demonstrable harm to non-consenting parties.

Pentecostalists are free to believe that humans can be possessed by devils. The state will intervene only if they torture children to expel these supposed devils. Roman Catholics are welcome to believe that a human blastoma is sacred; Muslims are welcome to believe (with much more reason) that humans shouldn't consume alcohol; scientologists are free to spend half their fortune on I know not what. But no religion is entitled to blackmail MPs to vote to ban abortion (or alcohol), or allow torture of children, or preserve the tax-breaks for Scientology.

Alas,
Scarthin Nick, there is no powerful body of secularists. The nearest thing I know of, is the harmless and cuddly National Secular Society.

Scarthin Nick 30 Jun

Nicholas: This is exactly what I found when I went to the Sheffield Humanists' Open Day (in Chesterfield) - about 50 or 60 amiable citizens from all walks of life, including quite a few former Catholics - I think it's worth pointing out that throughout the the open day of guest speakers and discussion groups - at no stage was it ever put forward as a serious suggestion that religion be "removed", as in the form of a coup, from public life. The consensus being that people should be encouraged to use their reason and rationality to walk away from superstitious and supernatural beliefs of their own accord.



The violent end of religion appears to be something more of a preoccupation with religionists themselves, particularly with eschatologists, whose ranks swell daily from the more gullible citizens of America. (There is an amusing bumper sticker doing the rounds: "Can I have your car after the rapture?") A close friend of mine who is a Jehovah's Witness never fails to remind me that the time is nigh when Jehovah will put it into the minds of politicians to ban all religion as a starting pistol for Armageddon. All that exhortation from Cardinal O'Brien ultimately wasted, it would seem.









Paul Rodden 2 Jul

"All that exhortation from Cardinal O'Brien ultimately wasted, it would seem."


I am glad you see it as exhortation, Nick, and not imposition or any other sort of controlling term.


I am amazed this topic's been the subject of two consecutive debates!


However, I think Jonathan Chaplin surpasses Steve Holmes, apart from the phrase "church’s prohibition", which I don't consider quite correct. It is certainly a far more sensitive article, particularly as he doesn't need to make little critical asides.


The Church prohibits nothing. There are untold documents which use the phrase "the Church does not impose, she proposes", especially since Vatican II.


Only those poorly catechised within Catholicism, and those ignorant without, think the Magisterium is some kind of KGB. In fact, most people commenting on Catholicism from without, rarely have a clue, apart from a kind of osmotic 'received wisdom'.


The Catholic Church prohibits absolutely nothing. It realises we are all fallible, Pope included, but that does not remove culpability.


All the so-called "cover-up" over 'paedophile priests' was, in fact, the Church trying to get these priests to face up to what they were doing as disordered. It wasn't a cover up. It was Christians having mercy on other people who had fallen into grave sin (NB: where the secular world doesn't!), and was giving them the opportunity to turn back to Christ, in repentance. [1]


Yes, and still, the Bishops didn't always get it right when dealing with it. They're human too.


This is how 'the Church' deals with all sins (homosexual acts, abortion, murder, paedophilia...). If particular Catholics decide to vilify anyone who has sinned in these ways, they're not following the teaching of 'the Church'. The only people who get excommunicated are false teachers - university professors on the whole - because they have decided they know better and instruct others wrongly: i.e., the corruption of the greatest, is the worst.


The fundamental problem, I think, is that both the secular and non-Catholic use the filter of a distorted ecclesiology through which to view us.


We believe the Church really is the body of Christ. He is not only fully present in the Eucharist, He is also fully present in his Church. So, it is not 'the Church' prohibiting, but Christ. Therefore, those who claim to be following Christ (as Catholics), should be following Christ, not their own arrogant take on things.


The problem is: why does a Catholic politician (I can't comment on other denominations) not want to follow Christ (i.e., the Church, as in our ecclesiology)? And, if he/she doesn't want to, then why bother staying? Which is is what I said in a previous post. They really are free to go.


Somehow, as soon as 'Catholicism' is mentioned, people think thumbscrews and burning at the stake.


If the secular media isn't utterly controlling in the way it can change public thinking or whip-up an 'outrage' overnight, so much so, that it can have laws changed in the twinking of an eye, and isn't the most recent replacement for thumbscrews, stakes, and crosses, which is used on those who might be perfectly innocent, misunderstood, or not singing from their totalitolerant* narrow-sheet, I don't know what is. Where's the mercy and goodness there?



*Credit to Nick Spenser for the great term totalitolerant, which sums up so much.


[1] See Philip Jenkins, Paedophiles and Priests, OUP, 1996 (Jenkins is not a Catholic)

polly 2 Jul

Jonathan, this is a brilliant piece. Shame about the lamentable debate that has since followed. The statement in your article that stands out especially is: "It's hard to grasp how this lamest of all secularist arguments [the 'seeking to impose its beliefs on the rest of us' one] manages to limp on today, but it's clearly necessary to go on repeating the elementary rejoinder to it: all laws 'impose' particular views on citizens, and at least some of them do so against the views of a majority." Exactly! The whole point of law is that it is (and should be) proscriptive and coercive. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be law. Law exists to enforce (yes, enforce) a particular view-point. The debate that we should really be having concerns the ethic or moral base that we should base our laws upon. The idea of neutrality is a myth. Law simply can't be amoral, even if, as I think it is, the infrastructure within which we live our lives. Let's cut to the chase. Can I have a short and simple answer from Nicholas, Paul Rodden and Scarthin Nick: What morality should underpin UK law (or any law, including human rights)?

Nicholas 2 Jul

What morality should underpin [any] law?

Avoid harming sentient beings.

I completely agree, Polly, that laws need a moral basis. There are two kinds of morality. There is honest humanist morality, that states its axioms, and is prepared to debate them. And there is dishonest morality, that invents a supernatural 'authority' for its axioms.

Paul Rodden 2 Jul

"Can I have a short and simple answer from Nicholas, Paul Rodden and Scarthin Nick: What morality should underpin UK law (or any law, including human rights)?"



Virtue Theory.

Scarthin Nick 2 Jul

Good social conduct for its own sake.

polly 3 Jul

Hi there. Thank you for answering everyone. Nicholas answers "Avoid harming sentient beings." Paul answers "Virtue Theory", and Scarthin Nick answers "Good social conduct for its own sake." I can see the merit in each of these, but the deeper point underlying this discussion and the answers given is that each - in its way - is highly subjective and each must be founded on a concept of the "good". In Paul’s thinking the "good" is presumably to be located in God (hence, Paul speaks of "virtue", rather than the more slippery concept of "values"). Even though Nicholas and Scarthin Nick will no doubt argue that God is "subjective" (and of course our understanding of God is in part subjective) or "invented", at least Paul still gives us an absolute moral base. But what is the moral basis of "Avoiding harm" or "Good social conduct"? Who decides? How can there be a "good" without an ultimate "good" (be it a law or a personal being) which is located outside of human experience?

Nicholas 3 Jul

A great virtue of virtue ethics is precisely that it does not postulate an absolute good.

A moral basis for avoiding harm can be constructed from virtue ethics: it's what kind people do. Or, of course, from social conduct: if most people avoid harm, it will tend to lead to a society full of eudaimonia.

Who decides? In general, evolving consensus in any given society. In parliament, MPs, guided by their own concepts of virtue, or avoiding harm, or social conduct. But not, please not, by threats from clerics.

There is not, and cannot be, an 'ultimate good' located outside of human experience. See, for the umpteenth time, Euthyphro.

Nicholas 3 Jul

Sorry. I did not show the virtue of thorough checking. This link works, if the gods will it.

polly 3 Jul

Ok Nicholas. In other words you think the "good" is determined by the will of the people and, in parliament, MPs will be guided by their own concept of virtue. Surely, using that logic, the Fascist regime of Hitler was "good". Do you really think so?

Nicholas 3 Jul

No, Polly, I think that there is no "good" to be "determined". Humans stumble around, attempting to find out what customs and laws assist eudaimonia. Often, we get it wrong, as "Saint Paul" and Martin Luther did in hating Jews, and Eugenio Pacelli did in fawning on Hitler, and Graham Low did when he urged us to persecute homosexuals in order to dissuade his wicked god from random killing.

polly 3 Jul

Nicholas. If there's no "good" to be "determined", how can we talk of "getting it wrong"? What is "wrong"?

Nicholas 3 Jul

'Wrong' is what the current consensus in a given society holds deleterious to eudaemonia.

polly 3 Jul

Yes. I feared that you were going to say that. On that basis, one could only be wrong when one wasn't in the majority, and that would be a very sad state of affairs indeed.

Paul Rodden 3 Jul

I have been reflecting on the question of whether the secular can learn to love pluralism, particularly as the question could be validly addressed to religion too.


It might be the case that there is something at the root of major socio-political problems which is neither religious nor secular, yet can be found in both, i.e., within certain strains of each.


Although there is a divide between the sacred and the secular (assuming one as roughly the negation or opposite of the other, yet not mutually exclusive), I think there is a far more dangerous problem which affects both the religious and the secular.


I believe the root cause of serious socio-political problems is the quest for perfection - and always has been - throughout history.


In short, it is the sin of Adam - pride - or putting it from another perspective, a denial of original sin - that man thinks he knows better than God - that is, political or religious self-'right'-eousness.


It is the debasement or denial of Augustine's maxim that, "Our hearts are restless until they rest in Thee". It is when man thinks he can bring about his own place of rest - on earth - by his own efforts. In effect, transposing, or inverting, the first two Commandments.


This, surely, leads to utopian thinking. Secularism or religion do not matter, it's the kind of thinking or mindset that counts.


Utopia: the idea that we can create a perfect society, religious or not, if we just get the ingredients right, and get people to follow the rules, even if the rules are "love one another". Pluralism simply cannot exist within a utopian framework, as freedom is excluded by the parameters of the utopian 'vision'. I think they are probably contradictory by nature. Utopia really is a 'nowhere', and always will be.


Therefore, I believe the only place pluralism can be loved by the secular has to be in a non-utopian context. That context can only be outside a belief in the human condition as perfectible from within, and with a concomitant understanding of the fallibility of that human nature which prevents hubris, humanly speaking, and/or setting itself up as an alternative to God, religiously speaking.


I think exactly the same is true of religion. It can fall by exactly the same sword as the secular, and history gives plenty of examples.


Whenever religion becomes intolerant, it seems to be always as the result of the application of utopian thinking.


Even the idea of tolerance itself, if it became a utopian ideal, becomes utterly destructive of anything which doesn't fit it's mould.


Fundamentalism, religious or secular, is, I think, a necessary but certainly by no means sufficient cause for utopian thinking. For utopian thinking, one needs at least the addition of the idea that perfection is possible in this life, and as I said, I don't think history supports this hypothesis. If anything, the opposite seems the case.


As a result, I have a real concern about the kind of stuff Madeleine Bunting is talking about in her recent article, The church may be struggling, but in politics its rhetoric is on the rise (see 'Media Monitoring' page, 2nd July, on Theos).


I don't really care whether the PM's a Christian or not, but it does worry me what Brown thinks about how it relates to politics. What scares me is if it becomes coupled with a utopian quest for perfection, which historically, to my mind, is at the root of any form of extremism, from Genesis onwards: Genesi-de anyone?

Nicholas 3 Jul

Fair point, Polly. I would accept that the consensus that ruled in a given society (eg, that slavery is a boon to slaves, or that thou shalt not suffer a witch to live) can be plausibly labelled wrong by a later society. But I would hold, firstly, that the later society can never be certain that it has the ultimate truth on the matter; and, secondly, that pointers from supposedly sacred books are always worthless for deciding contested moral issues. In the case of slavery, supposedly sacred texts could be, and were, advanced in justification of slavery.

To the extent that slavery and witch-burning and persecution of homosexuals are now frowned on, I think most human societies are making progress. But, Paul, I've never come across a secularist who believes that perfection is a real possibility. Secularism, the view that the supposedly sacred should have no role in politics, is not opposed to the supposedly sacred; it is opposed to theocracy. It is entirely possible to be simultaneously a convinced secularist and a convinced Christian. (It is also possible to be a convinced atheist, but in favour of a theocracy, to keep the masses in order.)

jonhunt 5 Jul

It's amazed me for a long time that for generations many churches recited weekly Luke ch1 v46 without showing the faintest understanding of it. Polly argues that the law is inevitably coercive and therefore must be coercive of a particular moral standpoint. The Magnificat (found at Luke 1.46) is interesting not just because it represents the words of the mother of Jesus but because of the worldview it outlines. It depicts a world where the powerful are humbled and the humble empowered.



My point? The more coercive the law, the more it creates power structures. The greater the power embedded in these structures, the more likely they are ultimately to come tumbling down.



It may be that our democratic systems are built on very very basic shared values - simply that it is better to share power and debate issues rather than fight about them. The powerful are humbled by the ballot box, not by the gun.



Within that democracy, agreed decisions may be reached by people with very different moral standpoints. I believe that abortion is wrong. I also believe it is socially undesirable and would hope that others using different moral frameworks might agree with me. So I might hope for a broad consensus to reduce abortion rates and not to increase them. In this country, however, that broad consensus may not exist. In which case there is very much a public debate to be had, especially if it is the case that public health policy-makers are using abortion to solve the problem of teenage pregnancy.



To put it another way, there is a case to be made for using the law with restraint - and it is certainly the mark of a wise law-maker.



James Collins 6 Jul

I'm not sure Jon understands the nature of law (or perhaps I misunderstand Jon). Jon argues that the more coercive the law, the more it creates power structures. Well, yes and no. The law can certainly be used to legislate beyond its appropriate jurisdiction. Indeed, this is the point that Thomas Aquinas makes in The Summa Theologica: "He that violently bloweth his nose, bringeth out blood" But all law is coercive (otherwise it would not be law) and so it must be or the laws against rape and murder would amount to mere guidance rather than law. The issue (again) therefore is not whether law should be coercive or not. The issue is what should be the limits of the law.

jonhunt 6 Jul

James, Polly's statement was: "The whole point of law is that it is (and should be) proscriptive and coercive. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be law. Law exists to enforce (yes, enforce) a particular view-point."



I take issue with this as the "point" of law is not to enforce but to create justice. Enforcement is a probable outcome of making laws as they may not be observed. In some cultures it might be unthinkable to break laws.



Secondly it is a wrong assumption that a law will only reflect a "particular" viewpoint. Laws (human ones) may reflect a consensus of viewpoints and indeed not wholly reflect any single viewpoint.



In fact the original article argued for Christian voices to be heard in a "pluralist" society and argued against 'either or' standpoints which suggest there needs to be either a theocracy or a secular state. Nicholas in turn argues that a state is either theocratic or secular (ie that secular is by definition non-theocratic).







polly 10 Jul

Well, the point of law is to deliver justice, but the difference between law and anything else is that it is intentionally prescriptive and coercive. If someone breaks the law, a penalty is incurred. I completely agree that law may reflect more than one viewpoint, but my point is that underpinning law there is morality and we can't get away from that fact.

seculardemocrat 12 Jul

I believe that there is an unwritten pact in our democracy that electors should not refuse to vote for candidates on the basis of their religious belief alone. In return the elector has the right to expect her/his MP to vote on the merits or otherwise of the case at issue and NOT according to religious dogma. Any tendency to do so will result in sectarian politics and we know exactly where that led in Northern Ireland. It is also currently causing great suffering in Iraq. SECULAR GOVERNMENT IS AS MUCH FOR THE PROTECTION OF RELIGIOUS BELIEF AS FOR PROTECTING THE NON-RELIGIOUS FROM PERSECUTION BY RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS.

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What is education for? 28 Comments | Latest 12 Nov
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Has science buried God? 60 Comments | Latest 31 Oct
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How do we counter terrorism? 56 Comments | Latest 27 Jul
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Can secularism learn to love pluralism? 25 Comments | Latest 12 Jul
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Can you cure affluenza? 39 Comments | Latest 19 Mar
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Is religion the cause of war? 39 Comments | Latest 07 Feb
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Spirit of Christmas 20 Comments | Latest 27 Dec
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Christmas is cancelled? 51 Comments | Latest 18 Dec
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The Dawkins Delusion 152 Comments | Latest 28 Nov